Thanks mathman :) A great deal of the credit for these goes to Boris by Capaces and Michael 2. So for starters you need both of those. I created two .fc2 files which I had hoped to get uploaded somewhere by now as a freebie for anyone who wanted them. But I would really like to do a Cheney and Edwards too. Not sure if twisting back on the dials will achieve the realistic look since this is Boris here....a bit of a caricature to begin with. Personally, I prefer the caricature when dealing with any human likeness, simply because it's more fun :) As for the hair.....no....Bush doesn't have that much hair, especially on top. His hair is a bit on the curly side though. This was the best short hair I had at the time. It's the UD Hair from DAZ. Kerry is sporting Hmann's rebel hair. The elephant is by Dark Whisper and the Donkey is PhilC's :)