Given the radical advances in Poser 5 it was hardly surprising that the initial release of the software was going to be bug-ridden. Fair play... even Microsoft don't expect to get things right first time, and a period of user involvement is necessary for sublimation. Kudos to Curious Labs for responding. I personally would rather see similar radical advances in future versions of Poser, but I'd certainly not expect them to be stable from day 1. Ajax Thanks for the materials pack. I downloaded it some time ago, and remember being fascinated when I loaded the included pz3. Also I'm very impressed with your background materials, which I'm using more and more. I'm surprised that I've never seen mention of any other background materials similar to your skies. I think they're great.