Thanks, I'll try that. Are you referring to unchecking the "Lights create shadows" on the HDRI tab or other lights in the scene? The few times I've tried HDRI, I deleted all the other lights in the scene. Are there some general guidelines regarding using HDRI and other lights (ie.) Poser scene lights together? What type of lighting did you use in the sample image? An odd thought - since you're extracting lights from the HDR/PFM files, would it be possible to save those setups in a standard Poser .LT2 file? I think Poser 5 may already be able to utilize HDR data but some of us poor folks still use Poser 4. Even if the quality of the Poser render wasn't as good as POVRay, it might be a good way to set up the scene before going into PoseRay. Just a thought. I'll have to keep playing with settings. I think the scene I did, 1 clothed figure, PoseRay viewport size, took a little over an hour. Of course, that's with only 320MB of RAM. I'm sure it's no magic bullet but I'd really like a (free) renderer that allowed you to specify lighting by inputting the location, time of day, sky condition for outdoor scenes and things like type of lights for indoors. I've seen the former in one of the free landscape programs (Genesis?), and the latter in some high end applications. I think there's even an industry standard for defining artificial lighting source profiles that some applications can use.

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