"The dynamic hair is also a high end plugin that was integrated Who started that rumor?" Stewer, what -I- remember is this tidbit surfacing during one of the earlier Feature threads that both Kupa and Larry got into. If that's incorrect, please correct me. I don't find this hard to believe. After using hair for only a short time, I can say without reservation that it's a very powerful tool. The only thing that makes me doubt the validity of that statement is the actual toolset created for using the hair room, which is adequate, but in some ways lacking. I hope for some new tools in P6. Besides, who cares what is "high-end" or "low-end", anyway? I use softimage|XSI for school, and consistently get better results with Poser 5, because P5 streamlines a lot of activities that take days in a non-linear animation suite. Add in the wide availability of commercially useful content, and I can think of several areas that I might choose Poser above Maya or Lightwave. Of course, I don't think the future is going to be found in continuously improved crystal clarity or multi-million production values. The only reason that Poser 5 lacks the potential to be implemented in a production environment is its lack of network rendering capability. Even so, with the proper dedication and a skilled post-production editor, even that restriction could be worked around. ;)