Scarab i apreciate your conserns about file size... but this is actually the same object from previous post, its imported 3 times{667kb each instance} and each copy is rescaled +or-1%.. there is no texture involved each object/layer is a diferent color black/dark brown/dark gray... there are actually over 100 seperate objects on each layer with a base object size of 5kb... today i started a new model with a base object size optomised to 3kb with double the faces of the origional 5kb base object and 33% fewer vertices... i really appreciate the replies on this post ..it gets discouraging sometimes when no one seems to even notice your efforts :O)... and LOL@shadownet

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