Armorbeast opened this issue on Sep 11, 2004 ยท 66 posts
Armorbeast posted Sat, 11 September 2004 at 11:55 PM
Well Eliza I do agree but just got an email from an ISP that somehow got our sites IP address from a list...not some service.Maybe they went on the sly and got their list from another server...I am also glad you understand my frustration so I'll set my sharp teeth aside since they aren't needed.The issue Eliza is that my site generates no spam at all...nothing and thats why I have been so angry about this.If my site sent out any unwanted emails,the members themselves have the option to stop it.We don't send out mailing trying to get new members to join and only recently started a newsletter,but this preceeded the newsletter by quite some while. They offer no specifics with which I could address this matter with my server host save to say "duh,spamcop said to talk to you about it" and sit here like a dullard as my host says we have no idea what they're talking about!Its not my site Eliza,its another site on the server apparently...but I need to know who or even if this is actually going on.It could also be a matter of defining spam...everyone defines it differently~so what if a site on my server is being reported for spam when by general consensus what they're doing is seen as spam by only one person?Like I told them,give me something to work with here...maybe my server can segregate the spammers to a server seperate from the rest of us!I mean,spamming isn't illegal right...neither is it illegal to put known spammers on a seperate server!! There are other options here that could be pursued but Eliza it really comes down to one issue...they represent consumers not site owners and if you read the other posts in their forums you would know that some of those consumers are quite rabid~they don't care if its legit or not,ban them all is the attitude you get in there.Heck on the original link that was posted on,the admin actually had to come in and tell them to calm down and defend someone who was trying to say he wasn't a spammer. But in the end it comes down to one thing Eliza,this doesn't affect me it affects the members of my site...they're the ones not getting the ebots and its a direct result of being on that list.I think if you read their comments it basically came down to one thing for them...we agree your site may be completely innocent and that there could be only one spammer out of hundreds on that server~but what would you prefer us to do~do nothing and allow our subscribers to be spammed or ban everyone on that server to protect them!!By that token,what if their "members" also recieve email from other legit sites on that server...might surprise you to know,but most people don't look in their spam filters unless they have a reason becasue the reason they have filters is so they don't have to look at spam. My server host already said they would consider segregating known spammers to a seperate server...but their records indicate that there was no advisory to them about the alleged spammer and they prefer not moving me to another server because they agree,it would be stupid to move me to another server not knowing if it to was balcklisted or would become blacklisted in the near future.Why is it that I have to come up with an answer like this...don't you pay spamcop to actually use their heads,its a simple answer!Telling me to talk with my server host with no information on hand is a dumb answer you must admit...they had no idea what the hell I was talking about and said they hadn't been contacted by spamcop on this matter.
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