Forum: Community Center


Subject: Anti spamming~A New Age Of Fascist Thinking

Armorbeast opened this issue on Sep 11, 2004 ยท 66 posts


Armorbeast posted Sun, 12 September 2004 at 3:25 PM

Nope...I am saying that when you establish a direct line of communication its not email and if you have such a line of communication open you're not going to sit there dialing the phone and faxing them every minute on the minute when you have what you think is a direct line to them by computer...if the server goes down then you use phone or fax.The point being is that doctors use online communication heavily now including in the operating room where they may be talking to another doctor half way around the world or there's a vid cam there sending actual pictures of whats taking place. My point Midnight was you missed the point...because they send out online ads that spamcop recieves complaints about and blocks,suddenly anyone they might communicate with using that same server may find no communication coming through~the reason,if spamcop adds you to their blacklist and you use spamcop to "block" spam on your server,this legit direct contact between hospital and doctors is cut off.You don't even know this is the reason because spamcop does not #1 verify that the complaint is valid or #2 inform anyone they have been added.The only way you find out is if a rejected email is sent to you...but this doesn't always happen. In order to establish online communication,you use the server and if its the same server on the blacklist you get blocked...communication is severed.If there was some communication to let you know what happened the person on the other end would know to look in their spam filter maybe,find a filterred email and authorise this person to be allowed...problem there is that the reason you have a spam filter is so you don't have to look at these things and by the time you find out you were blacklisted it could be too late...even a few minutes could be critical. As for servers going down...I totally agree,it happens~but we're not talking servers going down...we're talking about being blacklisted without knowing and thats different because it was the willful action of someone else that caused this to happen.But as it is,you get added even by mistake and there are no more complaints...takes three days to be removed from the blacklist.If you do what they want and contact your server,it can still take up to 48 hours for your server to meet compliance but you have to find out that you're on their blacklist to know to do this! Spamcop is not a legal body nor do they have any legal right to require you to comply with their terms!For them it is a matter of coersion...do what we want or else and if no one is doing anything wrong,then spamcop itself has become even worse than the spammers they fight.

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