Yes, it's because of MaryCanary's horns. }:> De-lurk a lot, Larry. The more, the merrier. And it keeps Mike happy! LOL! I've been hanging around this board about a year...wow, that long already? The pace fluctuates, depending on what people are doing in their Real Lives (like jury duty? agh!) When we're all just loafing around, we post more often. (Dutifully avoids looking anyone in the eye after that.) ;) Sacred...scroll down the board a ways. MaryCanary has posted a bunch of excellent tips for bringing in Victoria/Michael. And then nag her about finishing the tutorial she's writing...grin ::getting outta here before I get thrown out:: :) Varian -- Treasures d'Esprit http://www.varian.net/dreamview/dreamtools/vue/