Of course by admitting I was not at fault there was also a lot of I dunnos and such lol...I really am not against the principle behind spamcop,I am against the fact that they don't verify and they don't inform those suspected of wrong doing.If its a mistake so what...if there is a problem that causes my server to go on a list and I could be labelled a spammer as a result,my argument all along is let me know beforehand and the hell you see me raising here will be raised with the server instead!! I can do far more good forcing my server to fix a problem if I know there is a problem that needs fixed...but the policies used by spamcop don't even offer me a chance.If I didn't get those bounced ebots I never would have known why my members were complaining that they weren't recieving their ebots all of a sudden.If their goal is to stop spam,then they need to start using their heads and keep up with the spammers who I guarantee are using theirs to try to get around our filters and blocked senders lists. We don't need spamcop as it is...we need something better that doesn't attack everyone regardless of guilt.If what they are doing isn't illegal and they can continue...then why can't we encourage someone else to compete with them by actually trying to verify complaints,to inform sites on servers of possible actions~but more than anything,to find new ways of dealing with spam because other than being insulted at being labelled a spammer~I know that I could also get around their blacklist without even half trying if I were a spammer;P Spamcop isn't even the best option you have...use Thunderbird by Mozilla or Mailwasher,find an ISP with their own filter...there are other options I can't think of atm proven "more" effective than spamcop and they are all "totally free" and in the end I guess thats the best way to slap spamcop in the face...point out they are no more effective than the free options and they do more damage to legitimate enterprises;P

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