okay, tutorial is about half done, I promise! In the meantime, here's tips on installing zygote stuff: When you get to the screen where it says it's going to install it, remove the c:programfiles line and type in the full location of your poser folder. All my art apps are on their own drive so mine is F:Poser 4 (including the space before the 4). The empty folders...are they empty in windows explorer or in poser? If they are empty in poser, that's because when you create a subdirectory in one of those folders it shows the NAME of stuff way down in the directories but can't actually see anything. quick rundown of file placement for mike and vic, in case the location trick above doesn't work. blMilMan.obj, blMilWoman.obj, blMilMan.rsr, blMilWoman.rsr--all need to go in the folder poser 4runtimegeometriesZygotePeople --just make that folder in explorer (windows that is) and drag those 4 files into it. THEN, the files that end in .cr2 need to go in a folder under poser 4runtimelibrariescharacter --zygote will name it something or other like "zygote people" but you can name it anything you want. Just to be extra clear, create something like librariescharactermikeNvicky and dump the cr2 files into there. then, the pose files are those pz2 or pp2 ending files, you get some of those too. Those go in poser 4runtimelibrariesposemikeNvicky or whatever else you like. (they don't have to go all in the same folder of course but that'll get you started). If you have Mike's textures, I think the path they want is poser 4runtimetextureszygotecharactersmilman for mike's textures and bumps and poser 4runtimetextureszygotecharactersmilwoman for vicky's. the last thing is, any time you get a "cannot locate" error, make a note of the full path and name it's looking for, and go thru windows explorer to put the thing in that path. Let me know how this works out for ya. MaryCanary