Uhm, Steve, dodger's been banned for seven days for the better part of the year (i.e., the "seven day ban" has never been lifted). He may see this thread (especially if someone alerts him to it), but he won't be able to reply here at all. He's still around Poser Pros, though, if you want to give him a shout. bonni

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