Hi I've just been to the poserworld site. They seem to be a little mean with there descpritions, or am I looking in the working place. All I could find is ... http://www.poserworld.com/DesktopModules/ViewAlbumPhotos.aspx?AlbumID=115&mid=39 with this short description... PoserWorld Update #112 (May 16, 2004) sunglasses for mike, teen outfits, magic book prop, more suits, Dinner suit extras for Mike 3's suit,Suit set for Mike 2,New textures and MAT files for V3, SP3 and David morphing jeans,70 Poser 5 Goth shaders by Lyrra. Is that it description wise? If it is, it's nothing like the descriptions I get on daz, renderosity or any of the other 3d sites I've been to. Hopefully I'm an idiot and I'm looking in the wrong place. Or do you have to subcribe 1st before you get a full description? (if so that ssooo unfair) Please point me in the right direction. Thanks