The problem with removing that alternateGeom stuff is I don't know exactly where it ends. Nor am I sure I'd know where the genital stuff is at. I don't suppose your oxymoron has a tutorial for me? LOL! As it is Just resaving the Newly turned on Cylon with his new reflection maps and his genitals turned on made them stay on in the new CR2. I'm afraid to mess with them now. LOL!