Snow and many others here... with all due respect, the owners of this site have demonstrated quite plainly that there no reason in which to change the structure or the way this site is maintained and/or operated unless they are forced to do so. So for individuals to just 'suck it up', stick around and wait for a solution that will never come only supports the owner's of this site belief that the members of this site are nothing but a dumb herd of sheep that will conform (grudgingly some of the times) to whatever whim they choose to suffer upon what had once been a Community. Only reason why I come here anymore is to troll through the free stuff, and visit the forums every September to watch the management shoot themselves in the foot for making, yet another, boneheaded move. Lets the first September this site was opened saw Willow and Grey get ejected from their hard work on this site, the following one saw myself and DSI ejected from our hard work on this site, the following one was a combination of lets rewrite the rules for Artist of the Month and Artist of the Year because we dont want Legume to win, the September after that was the combination of lets rewrite our Contest Rules at the end of a contest and also tick off the merchants of this site by ejecting some and playing favorites and once again, this September is lets find, yet another way, to restrict the Community atmosphere on this site by disallowing any Community Member created contests See a pattern here? Look people, I no longer have a vested interest in the Poser Community, I no longer run any Poser sites and I tend to stick to myself and rarely talk on the forums, preferring to come onto the sites and get whatever freebee looks good at the time, so no offense meant here (and I am probably wasting my breath here), but take a hard look around you you call what is going on in this site a Community? A Community website is a place where the members are ENCOURAGED to work side by side with the owners of the website to make it better. To come up with innovative ways in which to draw other members and new ones into interacting with each other, express themselves freely in every aspect of that site be it the galleries, the forums and even the online store. Ever since the ejection of Willow and Grey, Ed, Diane, Ironbear, DSI and myself from the operation of this website, Renderosity and its Community has been slowly suffering and has quite honestly become quite stifling. The C&D forum was removed, the Off Topic forum that had been set up to replace the C&D was removed, the Tavern removed (though there is a Den one now) it has gotten pretty much to the point where the only real talking you can do that may not be On Topic is either in chat or Site Messaging, or if you happen to get a post that goes unnoticed. Theyve now canceled the ability for members to have contests with each other for funrather than coming up with a way to still have them without the chance of legal issues and the owners of this site encourage favoritism more than ANY of the current Primary Presidential conventions put together. On this website you are a nobody or a sheep unless you one of the top vendors in their online store or a serious kiss-butt with TPTB here. Thats not a Community. You want to know what a Community is really like? What it is like to see the owners of a website encourage their members and themselves to be a Community? Try Renderotica, 3D Commune, Poser Pros, hell AniMotions has more of a Community style atmosphere than this place. The ONLY Community atmosphere I see coming from this place is from the members of this website, certainly not from the owners and from where I sit, it sure doesnt seem like the owners do anything to really encourage it unless it brings them more money. Bottom dollar folks I could care less if you keep coming here, pumping your hard earned money into this site and its online store. Nor do I care if you wish to continue paying for the privilege of posting more than a couple of images on this website a day, or sell your products in this sites store it is up to you if you wish to do those things and it is your right to do so But, if you think that the administration is ever going to change its views, policies and practices when you tolerate treatment you dont like and you stick around like the sheep they think you are, then you are only deluding yourselves inaction is no different and is often viewed as tolerance with business people and that is EXACTLY what the owners of this site is. The only care that the owners of this website have about the members and the Community here is just HOW MUCH MONEY they can get from you. Otherwise they would be interacting with their members, not just when there is a uprising, but ALL OF THE TIME interacting, partaking and encouraging all of you to do the same. Sure, the other websites I mentioned (Renderotica, 3D Commune, Poser Pros, FaerieWylde and AniMotions) also are run by people who run a business on their websites and try to make money from the 3D and Poser Community however, I know personally that Diane, Mark, Greg, Thorne, Menhdi and Russell interact, partake and encourage those that are members of their sites to BE a Community, and constantly work with their members to make their sites better not just to make money off of them, but to also make it better for those that visit their sites THAT is what a COMMUNITY really is. If you are unhappy here, dont like the way you are treated as artists or individuals, or like the treatment of others, then please dont be sheep. The only reason why this site is as big as it is is because the owners of this site is hoping that is exactly what you will be and will never change for the better as long as that is the case. nuff said. ~Jack