asked, told or " Requested " << you missed the " Requested " bit. mutedbanshee ... dont play with my words please, youll make me sound horrible. one sided or even petty . ....anyways when one is carrying out any said actions it ceases to be art and becomes work...a task. .......i was speaking on a very easy and quite black n white level. ......i belive true art comes from within.....period. if any other artist needs to work by another artists rule, then that is fine with me. i was simply stating every artists driving sentance....practice then practice then practice some more . ......but i trust my grammer has let me down somewhat with the " practice you cant lose " line. sorry :O) im new to this interaction thing. i have lead quite a sheltered life ,im affriad peace ~ KAOS ~