Yes I just used correctref pro, and it found like 3300 bad references lol (my runtime folder is 20 GB), so i was hopeful that would improve things. It DID speed up poser in general but for some reason any MAT file i click on still takes forever to load. And I mean FOREVER lol... even changing the face MAT on a character is 7-8 minutes of loading =( I can't work like this I really hope I can figure out what is wrong. It's hard to believe a complete fresh install didn't help. I probably should defrag, it's been a while, but that isn't going to be what fixes it (since poser is fast for loading CR2s but can't seem to load props or MATs in under 10 minutes). Really stumped on this one...