You're the meanest bunch of $%$%ing %$$%ers that I ever came across. Somebody posted with great enthusiasm that he was developing something new for Bryce, and you ripped him to shreds, and gave him no support or positive encouragement. Now that he's given up you're saying "I knew it was a scam all the time". Well, maybe it was a self-fulfilling prophecy? If I was working on something and kept getting negative feedback I'd give up as well. AND I don't think it's fair, since he's decided to withdraw from the cattiness of the Bryce forum, that the bitching is starting up again anyway. If you don't want ProRender, then stop being so bloody small-minded, and leave him alone to get on with it or not as he pleases. If you're not interested, why keep picking away?