Sacred, yes, listen to them! Zygote's EXE files are self-installers, and since yours isn't installing anything, it's probably due to a zilched download. From all accounts, Zygote is very responsive and helpful in such cases. You paid for the items and you should be able to use them -- and Zygote thinks so, too! :) Larry, ROFL! I love your "senior moment"...although I think the word you were looking for is "mu-fu" these days? Another senior here, obviously. grin Been enjoying your posts to the Terragen list, too, btw. :)