Actually the word is really "MoFo" nowadays (speaking as a spry 32, but more importantly, an urban dweller with a teenage nephew). And Sacred, I'm impressed at your lack of a potty mouth. Anyway the Mo is for Mother and the Fo is a naughty word...THE naughty word. So, what error are you getting? Do you see the blokes in your library but they won't load? Or are they just not in the library? Oh and have you installed the SUPER important poser patch? If you're ok with the phone thing, email your phone number and time zone to chandracrater@yahoo.com; I'm a computer hog today so I'll be checking it a lot and I can put a quick call thru and see if we can't clear it up. That's the easiest way for me anyway. Assuming you live in the same country as me (usa), otherwise it'll likely be too expensive. :) (I know you told me earlier where you live but I forgot!) Mary