AS.....I use openGL in other proggies not DS. Also, I don't think people are "vilifying" Bryce. It's more on how Daz is doing this whole thing, that has me miffed. I already own 80-90% of what's in the bundle, and not the LE versions the FULL versions....why in the world would ANYBODY want to buy all this stuff 2x just to save 30.00 on Bryce upgrade...I mean in the grand scheme of things 30.00 isn't a whole a lot of money(well to some its a lot). I have no hatred for ANY software by the way. Of course, I can see how this would be a great offer for those who are just getting started in the 3d world.