Well said BGFT, I've only been around for less than a year and post maybe 1 or 2 images a month, if that, but if I see somebody who's got a ligitimate question about how to do something I try and post a helpful response that assists that individual with the problem they are asking about. What really drives me nuts to see in these forums is when someone has a question and another person posts a response that follows these lines: "Yeah I know, that's such a problem, Vue never gets anything right, not example or example or anything, if those idiots at eon had done things right then we wouldn't have any of those problems" And the whole spouting off usually has very little to do with the actual question that the person was asking, it doesn't help them solve their problem and really nobody else is interested in hearing for the upteanth millionth time the same complaint that the same person keeps making over and over again with nothing new to add and nothing to do with the topic they're posting under. I can sympathise with some people who just plain aren't happy with the software's performance but if you've got a legitimate problem with something not working right you take it to E-on, and if they can't help you or whatever, just bail out, drop the software and run, "step away from the Vue", complaining about it over and over does nothing more than irritate the people who would actually like to get some help when they have a question, that's where all the negativity toward specific posters ends up coming from, from having their questions answered with "this sofware is crap, don't ask me what would be better or to help you in any way, but I know that this software is garbage". I'm glad this topic came up because frankly I can't remember the last time I actually saw a technical question being posted that wasn't answered with "crap, Vue is crap" by at least one or two posters. It's one thing if somebody asks your opinion like "is Vue 4 right for me" and to be answered with "well, it does these things well, this stuff not so well" but it's quite another when the same question elicits "this software is total garbage, it can't even do this or this or this". There's nothing helpful in that at all and if someone posts a question in the forum they're looking for help, not for flames against a software they're considering as a purchase. They're actually looking for an opinion about the pros and cons the sofware offers. Alright, think I've got it out of my system now, (steps off the soapbox) time to check a render :)