Why Jack, nice of you to show up. It is fascinating that the only time you show up around here is to bash the PTB and stir the pot.

Only reason why I come here anymore is to troll through the free stuff, and visit the forums every September to watch the management shoot themselves in the foot for making, yet another, boneheaded move.

Troll, interesting choice of words. Very descriptive.

the following one saw myself and DSI ejected from our hard work on this site

No hard feelings about that eh? smirk

Ever since the ejection of Willow and Grey

Didn't Willow and Grey choose to leave because of a disagreement with Edgenet? No love lost between Willow and Grey and you either Jack.

Ever since the ejection of Willow and Grey, Ed, Diane, Ironbear, DSI and myself from the operation of this website, Renderosity and its Community has been slowly suffering and has quite honestly become quite stifling.

Stifling? I don't see any of the PTB stopping you from voicing your criticisms. The only time you post is to point out how bad things are here and yet the PTB has never attacked you, tried to stop you from posting, deleted your posts, or banned you. As far as being ejected...(another interesting choice of words) perhaps the management here had their reasons for doing so, reasons they didn't feel a need to share with the community. Most companies consider such information confidential and don't share it either.

The C&D forum was removed, the Off Topic forum that had been set up to replace the C&D was removed, the Tavern removed (though there is a Den one now) it has gotten pretty much to the point where the only real talking you can do that may not be On Topic is either in chat or Site Messaging

Well, as it says in the banner at the top of the page, this is an "Art Community". Seems like the primary focus of an Art Community ought to be art.

On this website you are a nobody or a sheep unless you one of the top vendors in their online store or a serious kiss-butt with TPTB here.

Well, some of us come here to share information and art. We have lives outside of this site and the internet where we are "somebodys". It's not important to be a somebody here, it's important to have this site as an artists resource to share that common interest.

Thats not a Community. You want to know what a Community is really like? What it is like to see the owners of a website encourage their members and themselves to be a Community? Try Renderotica, 3D Commune, Poser Pros, hell AniMotions has more of a Community style atmosphere than this place.

Having an off-topic discussion forum or a policy allowing personal attacks or forums where members can "square off" in verbal gladitorial combat isn't necessarily encouraging membrs to be a Community. All the sites that you mention are fine, nothing wrong with them, but...there's really a small core group of members that seem to actively participate in them.

The ONLY Community atmosphere I see coming from this place is from the members of this website, certainly not from the owners and from where I sit

Seems to me that's where a community atmosphere is supposed to come from...the members.

Bottom dollar folks I could care less if you keep coming here, pumping your hard earned money into this site and its online store. Nor do I care if you wish to continue paying for the privilege of posting more than a couple of images on this website a day, or sell your products in this sites store

If you don't care, why are you bothering to bitch about it? If you don't care, why are you encouraging people to leave? It wouldn't have anything to do with the following one saw myself and DSI ejected from our hard work on this site would it...nah...no way.

Sure, the other websites I mentioned (Renderotica, 3D Commune, Poser Pros, FaerieWylde and AniMotions) also are run by people who run a business on their websites and try to make money from the 3D and Poser Community

Well gosh, if only people would leave this dastardly place so those that run other communities wouldn't be forced to advertise their products in the Renderosity Product Showcase anymore.

The only care that the owners of this website have about the members and the Community here is just HOW MUCH MONEY they can get from you.

Renderotica cares so much that they don't allow anyone to advertise on their site unless they sell there. They don't want their members going to any other store, it isn't in their "best interest" and that's according to their new ad policy that can be read in their General Discussions forum. It's a dog eat dog world out there Jack and everybody wants their piece of the pie.

I know personally that Diane, Mark, Greg, Thorne, Menhdi and Russell interact, partake and encourage those that are members of their sites to BE a Community, and constantly work with their members to make their sites better not just to make money off of them, but to also make it better for those that visit their sites THAT is what a COMMUNITY really is.

A community is different things to different people, but mostly a community is "an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location". It's the people that make the community, not the owners of the location. Now I'm sure there will be a lot of rebutals to my comments, but when all is said and done it's a matter of choice. If you choose to stay...stay, if you choose to go...go, but only participating when you have something negative to say does not lend a lot to your credibility but it does make it appear you have an agenda.