Hi Ghost: Thanks for the reply. You know of course he wears laced-up military boots. ;-) I do have some but I'm so tired of refitting them every time I change a pose! I parented them but they keep moving. So I'm resigned to using the same pose - very boring. Sort of defeats the purpose of 'POSER' don't you think. I'm really getting depressed here; can't seem to get any further with what I have in conforming clothes for Mike. I've been working on this every day for weeks and I'm getting burned out I guess. And being a newbie doesn't help. I guess I bit off more than I can chew. I thought about using the Mike/P4 hybrid but it's too late now. I've done all the textures and trans maps and don't want to start over. Maybe I'll wait until Zygote puts out some more clothes for Mike. In the meantime I might just give away the dreds textures and trans maps, but I don't have a website and I'm on a Mac so maybe I could just put them in a post here. What do you think? Aeriol