Forevernyt opened this issue on Sep 16, 2004 ยท 393 posts
Grey_Tower posted Sun, 19 September 2004 at 7:52 PM
because of actions that happened in the past to me in this place my actions and comments could be held suspect by those who so choose to.
Jack, actions that happened in the past and your continued posting only when there is a shitstorm, and then only to bash the PTB is what makes your motives suspect.
However, I don't believe I need any "credibility" to suggest (or in your words "encourage") to those that are unhappy with the way that this site is being operated to go visit other websites
Why do you need to suggest that at all Jack? Who appointed you caretaker? People can think for themselves and make up their own minds. People that are unhappy with this site are perfectly capable of bailing out on their own and most people do know there are other sites out there and they do visit them. Without credibility Jack, you just sound like a disgruntled former employee with a grudge.
Now if I was asking them to perform a mass evacuation to ONE particular website or one in which I owned (which I don't own any anymore) then yes, it would appear that Id have an agenda (as you put it) and my credibility would then have to be a consideration.
Come on Jack, it's not hard to believe your "loyalties" lie with Animotions and Renderotica...you were a principal in creating them; however, as considerate as you were by mentioning the other sites, face it Jack, it's hard for some of us that have seen you in action since you first appeared at Renderosity to believe it was out of concern for the "unhappy members". It's not that big of a stretch to think you might giggle with glee at the thought of mass evactuations from the Choates, and aren't beyond "encouraging" that to happen.
If anyone's credibility or agenda should be examined here, quite honestly, it should be that of the owners of this website and that of your own in your defense of them
Ah, but you see Jack...I didn't defend the owners of this site. I have no agenda...I'm not the one that goes to a one specific site to post negative comments everytime something goes wrong the way you do here.
and whatever value your input brings to this discussion by trying to drudge up my past to try and cover up or spin the people's attention away from the fact there are some serious flaws transpiring on this site
I didn't dredge up your past Jack, you did. Wasn't it you that said in post#238 Lets the first September this site was opened saw Willow and Grey get ejected from their hard work on this site, the following one saw myself and DSI ejected from our hard work on this site and Ever since the ejection of Willow and Grey, Ed, Diane, Ironbear, DSI and myself from the operation of this website, Renderosity and its Community has been slowly suffering and has quite honestly become quite stifling.
However, the reason why I am bothering to bitch about it (as you so call it)
Hey, blame that on Merrium-Webster's Dictionary, they added "complaint" to the definition of bitch.
However, the reason why I am bothering to bitch about it (as you so call it), is because I DO CARE about those that might leave the Poser Community as a whole...rather than see them LEAVE the Community, Id rather see them continue their interaction within the Community as a whole, at another website
I'm sure most members know there are other websites out there, and I'm sure they can find there way there...if they haven't already. If all you "CARE" about is keeping people in the community as a whole, you could have just as easily left out the redundant song and dance about the evil PTB, and made a post saying something to the effect that for those that are interested there are other Poser related websites to frequent, and you could have included links.
I would think you, a member of this Community yourself, would want that as well but that doesnt appear to be the case judging from your post.
Appearances can be deceiving Jack. Personally, I seriously doubt that anyone leaving this website because they are unhappy with the PTB are going to leave the "Community as a whole".
You know Jack, you really aren't a bad guy. Once upon a time you did a lot for the community as a whole; you also know you're no angel Jack and you've done your share to disrupt the community as a whole. Sometimes though, you (and some others whose names I won't invoke) are like a shark, the minute you sense blood in the water you're there looking for something to bite and if you can't find it...you encourage others to do the biting while you circle around enjoying the scraps. That just isn't fair to the members of this site or the Community as a whole.