sorry guys maybe i should explain myself a bit better, i'm not interested in using Poser or anyother 3d modeling program at the moment. I want to do things in Bryce first then maybe look at starting to use Poser, DAZ-studio, Lightwave, Maya or one of the many other 3d modeling programs out there. Thanks anyway all, i'll just put this prject on the back burner for now and keep messing around with other models i can use without asking for help.