yep guess you can if you are just starting out using poser, i'm not "Yet" maybe later on i will do. Until then i'll just keep playing around with Bryce, sooner or later if things keep going the way they are i'll go back to my trusty HB Pencil and scetch pad and not bother with any of this gear. I'm wanting to use and learn Bryce but it seems you lot just keep on about Poser and are trying to get me using that even though i have stated a couple of times "I am not interested in using Poser or anyother 3d modeling program just yet". So i'll just give up asking for help on anything to do with Bryce on this forum, maybe i can find one on the net that only deals with helping new users of Bryce and wont tried push them into using something they are not interested in using until a later date. Thanks guys, i started losing interest in Bryce until some kind people on this forum answered a post i did and encouraged me to keep going with it, you lot in less than 24 hours have put me back to where i was thinking of removing it from my computer and not bothering about it or anything to do with the 3d art world.