Okay, I was afraid that's what you meant. That's no biggie though. I don't use IrfanView for real work, just as a quick (very low resources required) image viewer. I've been pasting my renders into it for saving but now that I've used P5's save function I like it better. I can't check out your example now, I'm on a 56k and am currently downloading a number of files. It takes a while just for refreshing/posting here.