Your right, I probably will upgrade, but first I'm going to have to sell some of my programs I don't use or have not learned yet. For now, I am going to stick with Bryce, Cinema 4D (just got version 9!), Poser, and Vue. Between these 4 programs, if I can't do what I want then it's time to quit! Anyone interested in buying my copy of Shade 7 standard or Carrara Studio 3 (I will include Transposer and Power Pack plus a book on Carrara)? I will put them up on e-bay this weekend. I love both programs, but it is getting too hard to learn multiple 3D apps, so need to stick with the programs I know. Peggy

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