Hi, "on the internet, nobody knows your a dog..." :) I'm 35, (somedays I feel even older :) but age is no guarantee of wisdom, it's also irrelevant to making money on the 'net, (or outside it for that matter.) and doubtless if you had explained yourself better at the start this would have reached a speedier consensus, if not resolution :) If you hadn't told me your age I would have assumed you were 20 something, since that the largest demographic group of 'net users... Having said that, "I appologise" for maligning your good name. I think you'll find that "the law" lags behind "the technology" by at least 3 - 5 years, and "public opinion" takes even longer to catch-up in most cases. Which is why case law & precedent are such big deals in the legal world. You don't need a new law for porn or "hate crime" on the 'net, since there are laws for those things already. Similarly, you don't need new laws to deal with .obj files as copyright exists already. You're only problem in that respect is to "prove title" to prove you created it in the first place, after that you'll find the law pretty cut & dried. This is just a kink on normal laws based around print publishing, the specifics change, but the underlying themes, the "spirit" of the law, remains. I can top 70 replies easily, check out the "Florida democrats' desperate rationalizations" thread in the complaint & debate forum, it's at 132 and counting :) I only got into this debate because I enjoy debating, extemporising at the keyboard, I have no life, sue me ;> If you want a real answer consult an intellectual property lawyer, everything else is just speculation and conjecture. I think though that you're going to have to get used to people saying anything they feel like in a debate, it's just the way it is, (cue Bruce Hornsby :) some will do it to throw you off, some will do it because they see life from a differernt angle, other are just crazier than a loon! all of which adds flavour to a debate and contributes to life's rich pattern, "deal with it!" :) Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one :) Think of how dull life would be if everyone agreed on everything. forming an opinion, expressing it, and defending it if necessary, is one of life's great joys, (at least to may way of thinking.) Your milage may vary :) later jb