I tend to express my opinion regardless, what others think of it is thier problem :) Though if I ever stoop to a "spelling flame" you have my permission to shoot me :) I'm used to speaking to people who don't speak English as a first language, and they usually like to be corrected. You spelled it wrong twice in succession and t isn't close enough to d for it to be a finger slip, so I assumed you'd like to know how to spell it. As for the "besides which..." it makes sense in context, a poll of peoples opinion will tell you nothing usefull when it comes to the rule of law, because if you want the definitive opinion you seek you'll only get it from a lawyer, (for a fee) or from a judge, (as he renders his verdict.) Out of context it probably does seem a little counter intuitive. If you'd like to engage me in an argument about semantics, semiotics and etymology I'd be only too happy to happy to oblige, I love a good language scrap! :) Though we may need to take that to email... later jb