rolls eyes i think you're jumping to conclusions a bit there. i mean all i'm saying is that: 1. nudity sells 2. r'ostiy has a huge poser community and therefore ppl will flock to it from other sites more than any other program 3. nudity sells. 4. that site has no nudity, yet it's in the top if you have a problem with that, feel free to argue those points. I never stated that I create graphic art. ever. i do my thing. i consider poser a very good and useful program that's being mis-used by a lot of horny little 14 year olds. that doesn't mean that there isn't any ART worthy of being called ART, or that I insult you, your family, your house pet, and your mother-in-law everytime i make a snide remark about poser. I don't. And that's that. if you think i give that much of a flying f word about what people think or say about me, you're absolutely wrong. /end of serious mode drac