Heh...actually, i think a lot of the Bryce purists agree with Drac when he bashes on poser. Many of us get sick of seeing 150 naked vickies rendered in bryce and thrown into our gallery. I'm not saying that Poser isn't an EXCELLENT tool for creating REAL 3D art, but when exploited for some cheap T$A by all the kiddies with Kazaa it's just being misused. Any program that is routinely exploited for the reason of cheap nudity deserves to be bashed to some extent. Especially when our poor Bryce is often forced to crank out boob after boob after boob from some "artists." Also not saying nudity isn't art, it can be, but often times it's just softcore porn.