WOW - thanks for all your support!!!!!!! Ajax, your tutorial, which ynsaen (thanks, hon) mentioned, is excellent! And when you say that your P5 shader pack already contains some water props, everything is perfect! :o) Btw, some of your thumbnail images in your freestuff don't work..... ;o))) I'll definitely give it a try, Ajax! What made me have a look for good water was this image in the gallery: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=770286&Start=1&Artist=ramhernan&ByArtist=Yes But now, when I see your water, Ajax, I don't know which looks more real...... ~Saskia~