I've stayed away from the threads about the bundles for the most part, as the initial info and ads were quite confusing. More to the point, these things were tied into the forthcoming Bryce 5.5 as "starter bundles," and included some ancient, overexposed DAZ products along with the lo-poly versions of models that I already have the full versions of. A few new fairy items do not entice. :-) It's odd to me that they didn't think of a promo for non-newbies who already have all that stuff. If I understand correctly, the only way to receive a discount on the release of v5.5 was to buy into one of these "starter" bundles. I'm sure they're great for total newbies, but the whole confusing thing was sort of a turn off for this non-newbie. Poor DAZ ... their customer base is SO hard on them, but not always without good reason. :-)