Yeah I think my first paper was ilford. I think I still have it. Didn't keep it in the frig though. Did anyone else other than me notice the use of WHILST! as in. Whilst this process continues we will be talking to ILFORD Imagings major customers and suppliers to maintain their support through this restructuring and disposal process. Man you British know how to talk!!! I'm still learning how to conjugate thee, thou, and thine. Dost thou knowest WHILLEST I am preceding thus? Bsteph