Looking at the pics again, I have a few thoughts. Wow. Both of them are beyond what I can do at the moment (and for quite some time, probably). I like the atmosphere and mood in Dracs render better, but The Bryster had more in there. In terms of the modelling, there's not much to choose one over the other. They both work well. Other considerations: Drac took a lot less time to do his, which does count for a fair bit. The Bryster used native Bryce. I like bryce, and I do most of my modelling in it. Looking at Drac's freebies makes my jaw drop, and I have to admit I have no idea how to do any of that in Wings. THE VOTE- It's split. Drac and The Bryster have shown that Bryce and Wings can do basically the same thing, even if the timescale is wildly different. Mahray

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