TigerD wrote: Now THAT looks good! Thanks! Just wish it were easy to texture. :-) I'll have to do this fancy NURBS-wrap-transfer-the-UV-coordinates trick in order to do a good looking texture. :-P But right now, I'd be happy just to finish the 3d model. :-) I,m confused, though, has TBKoen posted this Predator yet? If so, where can I get it? I've got the Alien, and this would help me out no end. If I'm not mistaken, it's available under the Poser Free Stuff section. Just do a search on "TBKoen" and you'll see the other neat Pred item he did--- the flying cutting disc weapon! Nuke