Thank you all for the nice words and the delightful pictures! I just woke up on a nice Sunday morning and it is really great to find all those posts. Igohigh: You are a brave man! Putting an ogre into that seems a dangerous as trying to put a cat into such clothes. Thank you for the note about the texture, I uses zbrush for texturing and with zbrush, all textures are upside down in poser. No problem in Poser 5, I just put -1 into the V-scale of the image node, but I forgot about Poser 4. I will post an updated zip later. Gareee: I just have to echo Pauljs75: ROFLMAO! Stefan