In answer to your question Nick perhaps UF and Xenodream shouldn't be in the fractal gallery and should have their own galleries? It becomes a fine line to decide that an image doesn't belong somewhere because it uses or is capable of using an add-on piece of software designed for it. UltraFractal doesn't create pure fractals but it is sold as a Fractal Generator so I don't see how you can get around the issue of using Bring-it-in. We have a unique problem in our gallery as it seems most Renderosity galleries are software based (Vue, Poser, Bryce etc) they don't have these issues we have. Perhaps some of our fractal software not longer fits the 'Fractal' criteria and deserving of standing alone? Just a thought :-)