yup i know, Jef ... but thing is, this mod made rules for this fractal gallery and tries to get away with it with a contest ... he speaks in contradictions and has no idea what he is talking about ... also treats everyone differently here, moves images around whenever he seems to have time for without negotiating first or when he has the mood for it, and when ya speak out your opinion about it, he treats ya like a kid or trashes yer opinion or warns ya ... and i don't care if you ban me for this, Nick...