"but thing is, this mod made rules for this fractal gallery and tries to get away with it with a contest " If you're still referring to the Fractal Magic contest, you can quit blaming Nick for that one. My company is sponsoring the contest. I'm the one who brought the idea to Nick and Barbara because I wanted to do something for the generous people of this community. If you want to do any bashing on the contest, I'm your gal. :) Cia