I already addressed framing and fontwork in an earlier comment, but if you want to overlook that and call that post working, then by your definition I'm guilty. Problem is, that's not what this thread is about. Nobody has problems with an artist signing the name of the art and their own name on the image. The topic of this thread is all the plugins, add-ins, and filters that are posted onto the image after rendered, or bring it in process in UF. Let's stick to the issues, please. The other thing about this thread that I find mind boggling is the decision that is going to be made affects the entire gallery, but people are not getting involved, or write "Zzzzzz" until I play devils advocate and ruffle feathers. Everyone that posts images here should be weighing in on this thread, but there's only silence from the bulk of them. They don't want to post their comments, that's fine, but let no complaints be heard from them when the dust settles. If the rule is made to allow any type of postworked image, then that's the way it's going to be. I have no problem living with that, because it's a wise decision to obey the rules of the site. Rebellion gets you nowhere. All I'm doing is throwing my viewpoint into the decision so that all sides can be looked at. Btw, you consider it postwork changing a png to a jpeg because the site doesn't allow png's? That's really interesting.