arguing with agiel is completely one sided. The same with gebe. I've argued with both and they refuse to respect people's opinions but instead delete their post or call them a spammers or a trolls but then delete my posts for name calling. I've been picked on by agiel since he or she became moderator. All I ask is honest respect of a perspective instead of judging everything that is argued against the vue forum clique as something that is negative. Freedom of expression is what I want and its what art is all about so why are these forums so controlled? We are artists. Let us express openly without worry. How could someone judge with complete accuracy another person's motive for making a post without even meeting eye to eye? It assumes a lot. Vue on.