I own Poser, but I have never made a render in Poser. I use it to set up animations. I own Vue but I have never made a landscape. I use it to render my Poser animations. I own ZBrush, but I have never used it to model. I use it as a 3D texture tool. I own Cubase but I have never made music with it. I use it to edit sound effects and speech for animations. I am currently converting a gaming engine to be a crowd generator for Poser. Do not presume that because a program was made for a specific purpose it will be used for that purpose. An artist will use the tools that suite his needs. So your comments about Agiel not posting renders of landscapes is way off base. I do consider myself a valid Vue user, and have used the lighting, texturing and rendering tools to their full capability, and just because I have never needed a landscape does not invalidate myself as a Vue user.

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