My goodness, there so many different discussions here, it's hard to tell what's what anymore!! I agree with Marion's comments. I was happy with things before complaints brought these new restrictions. As to post processing, a touch of sharpening, color contrast, gamma correction, all these can take a nice image and turn it into a fabulous image. I don't agree that it is just to cover up an inadequate piece of art. Those who do not have ultra fractal and work with flames in PSP or PS like to create some kind of background if they don't want a plain black background. According to the new rules, the flame is focus of the image, and the background and/or framing only enhances the image. If artists are to be restricted and constricted, it seems to me to put a real damper on their enthusiasm, at least for posting here in the fractal gallery. No offense taken, Andreas. :) I deleted all the picture tube images from my gallery except for one. I enjoyed it for a while, but came to realize that the source of the tubes can't be verified, so I haven't used them lately. I'll abide by whatever rules y'all decide to make. If pixies and fairies and kittens aren't fractal, then I'll be posting more in MM and other galleries here at Renderosity, as it's really left a bitter taste in my mouth to see all this bickering going on. This used to be a much happier place. I have enough on my plate in my personal life without feeling like I am being stifled and can't place an image that I thought was 80 or 90% fractal in the gallery that has been my comfy home for over 2 years now. This hobby is one of the few things that brings me any pleasure these days, and it saddens me that things have changed so much. I'll go along quietly once the decisions are made, but I don't think it will be quite as much fun anymore. This gallery has been my cozy haven for so long and I am a tad uncomfortable at having to venture out into unknown territority. C'est la vie.