Secondly, I for one, am tired of the generalized spates of criticism of e-on software corp and Vue. I know that social rant episodes are a thing that comes and goes in waves on these forums. It appears to happen in all of them - some kind of social contagion process or something a sociologist would love. But, I don't believe that's the basic purpose of the forums. I get tired of the rants, and I'm afraid of what they do to people who are newbies. It seems to me that this forum should be primarily a place where people can share knowledge and tips on how to use the software - given the limitations that are inevitable for every piece of software in existence, ask for help and get it from other members, and inspire other people with ideas for using the software. I am a software and systems developer and have been since I first bought Apple II - Serial #8. There is no perfect piece of software, and this occurs for very good reasons. There probably never will be, and if anyone wants to ask why, I'd be glad to explain in plain language on another thread. Vue and the other E-On Software products have limitations, just like every othr program. One of the major purposes of these forums is to help people discover how to work around and within these limitations. There is another serious consequence to the rants. When we indulge in wide-ranging tirades about Vue or E-On Software, we discourage newbies and turn them away. People of good intentions and relatively little knowledge and experience. Their entire impressions and knowledge of Vue and E-On Software are sometimes formed by what they learn here - on a bad set of days. Newbies or people potentially interested in Vue, by definition, don't have any basis to judge. So, on a bad day, new people visiting here learn here that Vue is "a total piece of crap" - because that's exactly what's said here during those times. Is this what we want to tell these people? So, I'm for free speech, but I'm also all for having a moderator who is charged with exercising judgement and keeping this forum from aimless and pointless rant sessions. If this requires deleting some messages, especially those that denigrate other people or are generic bitches about Vue, then I for one am willing to say that I want the moderator to be responsible for doing this. And I'm not going to consider it a violation of "free speech." I'm willing to say that I do want an active moderator for this forum, and I want this person to make judgements about the best way to keep the forum productive for the greatest number of its members. It is in the nature of human judgement that agiel or any other person charged with the responsibilities of being moderator will sometimes make mistakes about which messages he deletes in the interest of the basic purposes of the forum. I suppose that he can post a message of his own that says something like "For the record, littleshrub has voiced 10 messages over the last five days pointing errors in the Vue program and stating that E-On Software is a crappy outfit concerned only with money-grubbing or whatever. Any person, including E-On Software, wishing to converse with littleshrub about these posts that were deleted before they could be read by all should send littleshrub an IM or e-mail and inquire further." Something to that effect. That would register the comments, but take whatever the moderator judges to be a tirade out of the forum. Also, if a lot of people contacted "littleshrub" and thought that his comments had merit and should have been posted in the forum, they then could complain to the moderator, and the moderator probably would have enough sense to bow to the majority viewpoint. But people, ranting is not the thing to do in these forums! Please, stop it! If you've got a technical complaint, post it as such. Just leave the opinion about the general worth of the software or the development house behind. And, I apologize in advance to the thousands of people I've just now offended. No offense was meant. I just am personally sick to death of the bitching!