Thanks all .. I understand there will always be bug issues, having once programmed in C, I really understand that. I assure you that I am not trying to incite a riot or flame war here. Apparently, from reading some other threads, there seems to be some animosity about 'critiqueing VUE'. I really do not want to be involved in those matters. :) I have clean systems that I run other graphic programs on and these programs run with out crashing and that was the problem I actually had with Vue, the constant crashing and freezing. I suppose if VUE 5 is running much more stable for most people without crashing then I would be satisfied and would feel safe about purchasing VUE 5. Of course I will try the demo first. :) Sooooooo ... bugs aside, are people experiencing less crashing and freezing ? thanks