I did more or less fake it in the photoshop version and I totally agree that it's not really nessesary to do it inside Vue. It's just that sometimes it could be a better choise and then it's nice to know how to do it. Also it's a nice challenge to not use postwork. But when it comes to create a wanted result in a limited time any trick's are OK by me. The 6 minutes comment where mostly intended for GWeb as it did seem to me as he thought that the HDRI was the reason for the 20 minutes rendertime (I could of course be wrong). ;)