blah, blah, blah. Don't buy vue 5. The lack of a tree editor alone makes it painful to use. If you like nature the pro series has a limited editor that stinks that helps a little. I'd wait for vue5pro demo try it and then decide. They better fix the tree editor in vue5pro or I won't buy that either. Hindsight is 20 20 and even then a bit blurry. : )