Hey just thought I would let you know my spin on the situation: What Jeff is saying is that to be eligible for the 'web ring' you must have the actual webring code on your page. I had just the button and link back to Renderosity on every one of my pages and it still said that I didnt have the code on my page. I scratched my head a bit and ignored it... then Jeff sent me an email saying that I had to put the full webring code on my page to be eligible... I did and the message saying that my site wasn't up to code went away. Best way I can think of to make sure you don't get removed is to place the WEB RING code on your page and test out all of the links (Previous, Next, Previous 15, Next 15, etc.) this will make sure the ring is working and also give you your minimum 1 referral :-) Hope this helps some.... if not then I apologize for wasting the space :-) Eric